When Catmull, Jobs, and Lasseter got settled at the conference table, Katzenberg was forthright.
"John, since you won't come work for me," he said, looking at Lasseter, "I'm going to make it work this way."
Just as the Disney company shared some traits with Pixar, so Katzenberg shared some with Jobs.
Both were charming when they wanted to be, and aggressive (or worse) when it suited their moods or interests.
Alvy Ray Smith, on the verge of quitting Pixar, was at the meeting.
"Katzenberg and Jobs impressed me as a lot alike," he recalled. "Tyrants with an amazing gift of gab."
Katzenberg was delightfully aware of this. "Everybody thinks I'm a tyrant," he told the Pixar team.
"I am a tyrant. But I'm usually right." One can imagine Jobs saying the same.
As befitted two men of equal passion, the negotiations between Katzenberg and Jobs took months.
Katzenberg insisted that Disney be given the rights to Pixar's proprietary technology for making 3-D animation.
Jobs refused, and he ended up winning that engagement.
Jobs had his own demand: Pixar would have part ownership of the film and its characters,
sharing control of both video rights and sequels.
"If that's what you want," Katzenberg said, "we can just quit talking and you can leave now."