These days, he said, he thought more about getting older than about his birth.
他说，那段日子，他想的更多的是关于成长，而不是自己的身世。
That led him to play Joni Mitchell's greatest song, "Both Sides Now," with its lyrics about being older and wiser:
这时他选择了琼尼·米雪儿最著名的一首歌《正反两面》，歌词是关于成长和智慧：
"I've looked at life from both sides now,
“现在我看人生，看得到两面。
From win and lose, and still somehow,
看到得与失，却仍然迷惘。
It's life's illusions I recall,
那时以为的人生，也许是幻象。
I really don't know life at all."
人生啊，我真的不知道。”

As Glenn Gould had done with Bach's "Goldberg Variations," Mitchell had recorded "Both Sides Now" many years apart,
就像格伦·古尔德先后两次录制《戈登堡变奏曲》一样，米雪儿也在很多年之后重新录制了《正反两面》，
first in 1969 and then in an excruciatingly haunting slow version in 2000.
在1969年的第一版之后，她又在2000年录了一个哀伤婉转的版本。
He played the latter. "It's interesting how people age," he noted.
他播放了第二版，并说道：“人们变老的过程真是有趣。”
Some people, he added, don't age well even when they are young. I asked who he had in mind.
他还补充道，有一些人并没有随着年龄的增长而更成熟。我问他想到了谁。
"John Mayer is one of the best guitar players who's ever lived, and I'm just afraid he's blowing it big time," Jobs replied.
他回答：“约翰·梅尔是世界上最棒的吉他演奏家之一，但是我觉得他挥霍了大把时间，他的生活失控了。”