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Conversation Two
长对话二
Welcome to Books in Review. Our guest today is John Banks, the author of the bestselling new book. Glad to be here, Jane.
欢迎来到《书评》。我们今天的嘉宾是约翰·班克斯，他是畅销新书《奖励成功》的作者。很高兴来到这里，简。
Your book has sold 2,000,000 copies. But before we discuss why it's getting so much attention, let's talk about your background.
您的书已经卖出了200万册，但在我们讨论它为何受到如此多的关注之前，让我们先来谈谈您的背景。
You're an economist and spent two decades teaching at universities?
您是一位经济学家，并在大学里教了20年书？
I spent 25 years as a professor actually, and then for the last 10 years, I've worked as a political consultant, advising politicians at the national level about problems in our country.
实际上，我当了25年的教授。然后，在过去的10年里，我一直在做政治顾问，就我们国家的问题向国家层面的政治家提供建议。
You discuss three of those problems in the book, improving public education, reducing our nation's health care burden, and increasing personal savings.
您在书中讨论了其中的三个问题，即改善公共教育、减轻国家医疗负担和增加个人储蓄。
But your ideas about education are the most controversial.
但您关于教育的观点是最有争议的。
Absolutely. A lot of people think I'm trying to punish students who aren't doing well, when actually my goal is to give all students more incentive to succeed.
当然。很多人认为我在试图惩罚成绩不好的学生，而实际上我的目标是给所有学生更多成功的动力。
I'm not sure I agree with you. Your proposal to pay cash rewards to students who get good grades is a particular problem.
我不太同意您的观点。您提出给取得好成绩的学生支付现金奖励的建议就是一个特别的问题。
What about students who don't get good grades? It seems like you're blaming them for not succeeding when poor performance in school isn't the child's fault.
那成绩不好的学生呢？您似乎在责怪他们没有取得成功，而学习成绩差并不是孩子的错。
But my proposal is not just to reward students with good grades, but also students who show improvement.
但我的建议不仅仅是奖励成绩好的学生，还包括有所进步的学生。
Okay. Another criticism of the plan is the cash rewards themselves. Where will the money come from?
好吧，对该方案的另一个批评是现金奖励本身。钱从哪里来？
If students do better, we'll spend less on schooling. So in the end, the rewards will pay for themselves.
如果学生表现得更好，我们花在学校教育上的钱就会减少。所以，到头来，奖励的钱会自己给自己买单。
What about now? How will we fund the rewards in the meantime?
那现在呢？在此期间，我们如何为奖励提供资金？
Well, by increasing taxes or moving money from other areas of the budget into education.
嗯，通过增加税收或将预算中其他方面的资金转入教育。
Questions 12 to 15 are based on the conversation you have just heard.
问题12至15基于您刚刚听到的对话。
Question 12. What do we learn about the man?
问题12 我们从文中的男人身上了解到了什么？
Question 13. What does the woman say is the most controversial?
问题13 文中的女人说的最具争议的是什么？
Question 14. What does the man say is his real goal?
问题14 文中的男人说他真正的目标是什么？
Question 15. What will be one option for funding the proposed rewards according to the man?
问题15 根据文中的男人的说法，为提议的奖励提供资金的一种选择是什么？
