Wow. We are honored to be talking with Neilson Mandela, the former president of South Africa, whose unshakable courage,
his faith and integrity have inspired millions to see what is possible in their own lives. I've had the pleasure,
the honor of meeting Mr. Mandela on a couple of occasions before and I will tell you,
to be in his presence is really, to be in your presence is like being a presence of royalty and grace at the same time.
I would think, I wonder how does a man spend 27 years in prison, put there by an oppressor,
and come out of that experience with not a heart of stone, not a cold heart but a heart that is willing to forgive and embrace. I remember talking to you
one night of our dinner, and you had said to me that our hatred for the oppressor was so intense we did not see the value of talking to him.
So at what point did you see the value of letting go of that hatred and begin the process of talking?
Well, let me say first, that is a great tragedy to spend the best of your lives in prison.
But although it looks ironical, there are advantages in that.
If I had not been at the prison, I have not... I would not be able to achieve the most difficult, a task in life, and that is changing yourself.
I would not have an opportunity.