Our guest is an Emmy award winning actor, writer, producer you know from key and peele, toy story 4 and so much more,
今天嘉宾是一位艾美奖获奖演员 作家 制片人 代表作有黑人兄弟 玩具总动员4 等等等等
The insanely talented Keegan-michael key is here. Hey, keegan, how are you?
天赋爆表的科甘-迈克尔·凯来了 嘿 科甘 你好吗
I'm okay, james, how are you doing. It's so nice, obviously you were booked to come on the show,
我很好 詹姆斯 你好吗 太棒了 很明显 你已经预定要来参加这个节目了
To talk about this huge new entertainment show you have Game On. that is going to be a gloriously uplifting lighthearted chat.
来谈论这个新的大型娱乐节目 Game On 这将是一次令人振奋 轻松愉快的谈话
And the world has changed between your booking and now.
从你预定到现在 世界已经变了
I mean how are you feeling? How are you feel being what is happening around the country right now?
你感觉怎么样啊 对于现在这个国家发生的事情 你是什么感觉
I am, you know, i'm feeling-- i'm feeling a bit frustrated. I'm feeling frustrated.
我感觉 感觉有点沮丧 我感觉沮丧
And there is sadness to what is going on. And the fact that this is something that is happening in our nation, 50 years ago,
现在发生是事情让人悲伤 事实是 这件50年前发生在我们国家的事情
and then it is still happening today. An that's something that i find, that i find a little discouraging.
现在还在发生 这就是我发现的东西 我感觉有些让人失望
But there is also-- i have been seeing hope. I have been going through my social media a lot
但是也有 我也看到了希望 我一直在浏览我的社交媒体
And i have been looking for these photos and finding, which is lovely, photos of solidarity and unity
我一直在找寻这些照片 发现这些展现了团结一致的照片很美好
And seeing police officers arm in arm with protestors and seeing them put down their riot gear.
看到警察和抗议者手挽手 看到他们放下防暴装备
People kneeling and really having organized and heartfelt silent protests, things like that.
人们跪在地上 进行有组织的真诚的无声抗议 诸如此类
So that has been extremely helpful. To me. But you know, it really is, it is laden, it feels very heavy right now.
这非常有帮助 对我来说 但你知道 这真的很沉重 现在感觉很沉重
I know people are sifting through a lot with their feelings.
我知道人们会在他们的感受中筛选很多东西
And like the black lives matter movement is something that is important to me.
比如 黑人的命也是命活动 对我来说很重要
And i think it's something that is brought to the forefront again.
我认为它是被再次提上日程的事情
What is interesting, i read something today that i think is appropriate.
有趣的是 我今天读了一些我认为正当的东西
And when we hear the phrase all lives matter, it is like saying all lives matter as a response to black lives matter.
当我们听到所有人的命都是命这句话 它就好像是对 黑人的命也是命的一个回应
It is like saying the fire department should spray down all houses in the neighborhood
这就像说消防部门应该给附近所有的房子都喷水一样
Even if only one house is on fire because all the houses matter.
即使只有一个房子着火了 因为所有的房子都重要
And yes, your house does matter, 100%, but your house is not on fire.
是对 你的房子很重要 百分百 但是你的房子没有着火
And i think that, that kind of resonated with me today. That it is just looking,
我想 这一点今天让我产生了共鸣 只是看着
Let's just look for unity and see where people are and see what we can do that is proactive and helpful in this moment.
让我们团结起来 看看人们在哪里 看看在这个时刻我们能做些什么来积极主动 提供帮助

That is why i keep finding myself going back to look for those pictures.
这就是为什么我总是回去寻找那些照片的原因
You are in New York. You are just a few blocks from where the protests were last night.
你在纽约 你离昨晚抗议发生的地方只有几个街区
What goes through your head when you are watching these things unfold?
Z这些事情发生的时候 你在想什么
I think something that is really coming to me now is this sense of frustration, and seeing two different things, happening, right.
我现在真正感受到的就是一种沮丧感 看到两种事情正在发生
I'm seeing these people who are protesting and those people are saying,
我看到这些正在抗议的人 还有那些表示
You know, we're here and we're trying to peacefully protest.
我们来这里 我们就是想和平抗议
Then you have people that are kind of protesting and looting, and that seems to be mixed together.
然后你就看到人们 边抗议边抢劫 似乎混到一起了
And i think what we are seeing, the looting is like, it's a manifestation of this fear.
我觉得我们看到的 抢劫就像是 恐惧的表现
This fear and this anger and frustration because people, it's interesting.
恐惧 愤怒和沮丧 因为人们 这很有趣
We were told, you know, we were told that we're all equal and we're all going to have equal opportunities.
我们听到的是 你知道 我们都是平等的 我们都将有平等的机会
And we found out that certain people found out that doesn't apply to them.
我们发现 有些人发现 这并不适用于他们
And i think that that is what is really getting everybody, there is this sense of anger.
我认为这是真正让每个人都感到愤怒的东西
The American dream was supposed to apply to all of us and it doesn't apply to me.
美国梦应该适用于我们所有人 但它并不适用于我
I was supposed to have equal opportunities under the American dream.
在美国梦下 我应该有平等的机会
And then people don't know what to do with that frustration or those feelings.
然后人们就不知道该如何处理这些沮丧和感觉
And sth this is the manifestation of it in some parts.
这是它在某些方面的表现
So i think, are there more productive ways of doing this, but that is what i am seeing.
有没有更有效的方法来做这件事呢 但这就是我所看到的
That is what i am seeing when i see people, you were seeing that frustration. We're seeing that disappointment.
这就是我看到的 当我看到人们 会看到那种沮丧 看到那种失望
Well, Wilson says racism hasn't just arrived, it is just being filmed now.
威尔森表示种族主义不是刚出现 现在电影里演的就是
Right is there a sense when you see these like yeah, no, i know, it is just being filmed now.
当你看到这些时 你有没有感觉到 我知道 它只存在于电影里
yeah, i do get that sense of almost, you start to feel yourself, and how many times this happened and we have not witnessed it.
是的 我确实有这种感觉 你开始想 这种事情发生了多少次 我们却没有看到
How many times have this happened and there has not been an eye witness.
这种事发生了多少次 却没有一个目击者
And that gives you pause, so i do get that same feeling. And it's crazy.
这会让你停下来 所以我确实有那种感觉 这很疯狂
It's interesting, i just mentioned the looting. Because there is this issue here that is just coming to the surface,
这很有趣 我刚提到了抢劫 因为这里有一个问题刚刚浮出水面
Similar to what will is saying oh no, you are just seeing it, it has been here for such a long time.
就像威尔说的 不 你只是看到了 它已经在这里很久了
And this other issue of being disenfranchised and marginalized and not being given opportunities that others are being given.
这是另一个被剥夺公民权和被边缘化 没有得到其他人所得到的机会的问题
It is just coming to the surface now. What is so interesting to me is i think part of the frustration comes from the fact that
现在它才浮出水面 我觉得有趣的是 我觉得沮丧的部分原因是
when corporations are getting billions of dollars in stimulus money,
很多公司可以得到数十亿美元的刺激资金
when a lot of these companies are not even paying taxes or giving their employees a fair wage,
很多公司甚至不交税或不给员工发合理的工资
I feel there should be a word for that too. Do you know what i mean? Maybe they should call that looting.
我觉得也应该有一个词来形容它 你明白我的意思吗 也许他们应该称之为抢劫
And people are going wait a minute, i'm getting this, and the company is getting that, and it is just all bubbling up.
人们会说 等一下 我得到了这个 公司得到了那个 一切都在沸腾
I think it is just all bubbling up. Stick around, we're going to be talking with Keegan right after this break.
我觉得这一切都是在沸腾 不要走开 我们休息一会后继续和科甘聊天