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ANJALI RAO: Edison this is your first return to Hong Kong since the height of the scandal. Why are you speaking to us now?
EDISON CHEN: Well, now legally I'm allowed to speak about it because the trial's finally over and honestly there's been a lot of talk through the past year and a half about this or that and a lot of rumors, a lot of hearsay, and I feel, you know, I've kept quiet just to kind of respect everyone and respect the law and hopefully that when the trial ended I could finally speak and I guess this is my chance now. I have a lot to say and I think I'm only gonna say it once so I think that it would be best to say it here with you.
RAO: I appreciate that. Talk to me about what the experience has been like for you of coming back to Hong Kong.
I'm back.This is my home
CHEN: I thought about coming back to Hong Kong for a long time. I've wanted to come back for quite a while now, so I'm actually quite happy. I'm elated that I'm back. This is my home. I've been away from home for too long, you know, I feel like a nomad. I've been living out of a suitcase for a year and a half it seems like. And to be back with my family, to be back with my friends, where my companies are, where I live, where everything that I've known in the past 8, 9 years, you know, it's in Hong Kong.Of course it's nervous, it's nerve-racking, because I don't really know how people can accept me. I don't really know with all these threats and all this stuff around, I really don't know what to expect to be honest with you, but I can't live my life scared always or in hiding.
RAO: There was a point though where you seemed to suggest that you were going to stay out of the public eye indefinitely. Since then you've had your movie, The Sniper, out. Do you really think though that you can still resurrect your career?
I actually said indefinitely
CHEN: It is good that you said this point because a lot of the media, especially the Chinese media, have said that Edison says he's quitting the entertainment industry forever. I actually said indefinitely. Now maybe some people don't understand what indefinitely means. It can mean 5 minutes, it can mean 2,000 years. I never said forever. You know I mean I'm not telling you it's going to be an easy thing, that overnight it's just going to be like an overnight celebrity thing, cause it's not. And I'm gonna have to go through a lot of the things that I went through coming up in the beginning as well, but I think that if I have a passion for what I do, I'm willing to go through that.
RAO: You mentioned that there has been a threat aspect to all of this and a bullet was sent to a TV station with a message warning you to stay out of the limelight. Do you fear for your personal safety?
CHEN: I'd be lying to you if I said that I'm bullet-proof and I'm not afraid of anything. I'd like to say that, but yeah, you know, it's.I never thought I would ever ever have a death threat. Why would someone want to kill me I thought, and at the same time right now I still don't quite understand it, but I have to get over it. I have to live my life. I had a death threat a year and a half ago and I had a death threat just before the release of my movie.
Two death threats
RAO: Since you have had two death threats, I mean, how does that affect you as a person?
CHEN: The first one I was afraid. I was afraid. I was afraid to go anywhere. I was traveling around when I was still in Hong Kong in trunks of taxis, like literally, just to get to places because, I mean, I wasn't going to get food, I was going to meet my lawyers and meet my management company and it wasn't fun, you know, like I had to be in the trunk for 15 minutes. I didn't even know if I had enough oxygen to be honest with you. Even when I had left Asia and I had went to Canada and America, it took me 3 months to really get out of the shell that I had put myself in. I mean, I was in darkness for 5 days. I had my drapes closed and I didn't even want to go anywhere because I was in America then, you know, and I was really, really afraid of just people and a sudden car movement, you know, I was afraid of motor bikers when I was driving because I was just afraid of everything.
RAO: Did you have any idea where the threats were coming from? For example, were you worried about organized crime?
CHEN: Wow, you know, I wish I knew. I mean I would love to sit down with those people and really talk to them and really, in my terms, squash the beef, you know, like kind of level things out because I don't really believe that it has to go to that extreme. I think that there's a lot of things that whoever it is, or whoever these people are, we can talk it out. I don't think that a life has to be taken. I could go on thinking 'til I'm 50 and I will never know, which is why I'm a little bit more carefree in that way and I just put it in God's hands basically to let him do what he wants with me and at the same time hopefully I can live my life.
RAO: You were a highly visible presence in this part of the world until the scandal really blew up. What have you been doing with your days since it happened?
CHEN: I've been doing a lot of things. It took me a little while, but you know, with the constant support of everyone around me, you know, my family especially and my girlfriend. I kind of got through that shell again. I kind of got through this I'm nothing and I'm done and I might as well give up stage and, you know, started to see what I could do that was valuable in the area that I was in. And I was in America. I was in LA and New York mostly. I've always wanted to either direct or produce movies so I, you know, decided to take some crash courses, follow some producers and try to learn the game of production. Not only did I have time to do some of the things I enjoyed, um, some of the things that I dreaded at first like doing my laundry or throwing out the garbage or going to the grocery store actually became something that really grounded me, and really gave me a different perspective of life because I've been working in the entertainment industry since I was 19. Very young.
I didn't really have a great outlook on life to be honest with you. I was just out of school. It was like a party. You know, every day was like a party. I kind of got accustomed to that life where everything was taken care of, where I thought I was a pretty good person, and then I went back and I kind of had to do all these things by myself and I kind of reflected on the way I treated people and the way I saw things, and I got a lot more grounded. And I am thankful for that, you know. I mean, everything, I believe that everything happens for a reason.
RAO: Let's talk now specifically about the scandal. Sounds like a simple question, but why did you take the photos in the first place?
CHEN: Well, you know, when you're young you do a lot of things that you don't quite comprehend. You think it's fun, you do it, you don't really think about the outcome or what would happen if this or what would happen if that, and I think that you know, I mean, every every. when you're a teenager and when you're young and when you're a celebrity, and you have this and that, I think maybe you go overboard a little bit. And I think that maybe, you know, I just went a little too overboard, a little too wild I guess maybe. I don't take those pictures anymore and I had ceased to take those pictures for actually quite a long time. All those pictures that were released were taken pre-2004. It was 2008 when these photos were released so it was like a lot of people were seeing 'oh that's Edison.' That was actually the old Edison. Those photos were from 4 years ago. It's just, you know, I had even.I was in a serious relationship at that time. It was my first serious relationship. ever. I was in love. I'm happy. And, you know, when you respect someone and you really love someone you tend to care about how those people feel and when we had like deep intense talks, we talked about our past and, you know, I had actually told her that some of these things had happened before and she was quite upset and actually told me to delete them.
RAO: Why didn't you?
CHEN: I did. I did. I did delete them and.
RAO: -All of them?
CHEN: Yes, all of them. All of them. 6 months later after I had deleted these photos off my computer, my computer broke down. I had insisted, I mean, I had asked my assistant to go and bring the computer to go and get it fixed. Now, what I actually found out after returning to Hong Kong and assisting the police was that they had copied my whole hard drive and then they had recovered my memory. I had no idea that there was such a thing before. I thought that if I had put it in the trash bin and said empty trash bin and it goes [makes noise] and it's gone... forever, but no, it wasn't.
It's strange because I'm actually very happy that I had this talk with my girlfriend before and that she knew that I had deleted them because at least the person that I care for the most in this world knows the truth and will stand by me, because I don't know if I hadn't talked to her and I really didn't do that in front of her face if she would still stand by me through all of this. And, you know, she's been a very strong and very supportive girl even though she's very young.
RAO: You're still together?
CHEN: Yes yes, it's amazing.
RAO: How has she handled all of this?
CHEN: She's like a warrior.She's like superwoman, you know, like to me because while I was sitting indoors hiding, I mean, I don't want to sound like a coward, but it was deeply intense for me, but she'd be going to school every day.
RAO: Were there photos of her?
CHEN: Umm yes, yes, but very few.
RAO: Some 13 hundred were leaked onto the net. Do you know how many there were in total?
CHEN: Umm no, I didn't sit at home and count them, to be honest with you.
RAO: Are we talking hundreds? Are we talking thousands?
CHEN: I would say there were a few more. There were a few more, but that was already enough. Thirteen hundred is way enough already. I never spoke about these photos to anyone. I never.
RAO: You never showed them to anybody?
CHEN: No, I never showed them to anyone. The only people that might have seen them were the people who took them, where'd they be like can I look at what you just took? and I'd show them. I would never parade them around.
RAO: Did all of the women involved know that their photos were being taken?
CHEN: Yes, definitely. Definitely. I have to say that, you know, everything was mutual. It was all consensual, all consensual. I don't know exactly how they view what had happened or what they tell people, but I know the truth. I'm only here to say the truth because I believe that there's too much lies going around and too much controversy and too much hearsay. And I'll tell you right now that, you know, if I have a camera in front of your face and there's a flash, do you know that I'm taking a photo of you? That's as simple as it is.
RAO: Let me just ask you about the computer technician who was involved. By hacking into your files, it does sound like a deliberate attempt to target you personally. How do you feel about him?
CHEN: Umm the way I feel about him today and the way I felt about him 8 months ago is totally different. I've forgiven him and he's going to, you know, he's going to jail. He's got judged and he's passed judgment already and he's doing what he needs to do to redeem himself, but I don't exactly know if the person who stole the photos and that distribute and put them on the internet are the same person, but I definitely think that these people had something malicious towards me. It was a malicious act. It was purposefully done to hurt. No money was involved. No nothing was involved. People ask me, the police ask me, have people been blackmailing you? I was like, no. They're like 'wow' are you sure? I say definitely, I would know if someone was trying to blackmail me.
RAO: The public was furious at the time. Did you expect that sort of a backlash?
CHEN: Uhh...No,No, because I believed I was a victim. I believed that I was hurt by this a lot. I believed that.I knew that I had nothing to do with the spreading of these photos.
RAO: You don't believe you did anything wrong?
CHEN: I can't say I didn't do anything wrong. I own up to my mistake of being careless and not really, not really understanding something before I would allow something to happen, something to happen you know, I didn't really understand that. I admit I was wrong. I've admitted that I was wrong and I wouldn't say sorry if I wasn't wrong.
RAO: Tell me about the moment that you realized that these photos were everywhere.
CHEN: I was shocked. I was in disbelief. Someone called me. I was sleeping in the morning.
RAO: What'd they say?
CHEN: She said have you checked the internet yet? You should go check the internet. I go, man, I'm just sleeping please just. you really need to go to this web site and look at it right now. I looked at the website and I almost.I don't even know how to put it in words. I don't even know how to put that feeling in words. It was like everything just got sucked out of me and I was like looking and I was like 'wow' this is so.Where?! What?! When?! How?! Confusion, like, what to do? Oh my god my family! Oh my god my girlfriend! Oh my god my career! Oh my god the girls! Oh the press is going to have a field day. I have to fix this problem as soon as possible. That was the first day when 2 or 3 photos were out only, so imagine by the 800th photo how I was feeling. It was like a nightmare that never ended. It never ended. I would go to bed and I would pray, I would pray please, please God, today please be the last day. I pray I'll do anything. You know. Anything. Please today.
I'm not the person to ever commit suicide though, so I've never been there. I think that committing suicide is giving up on not only yourself, but the people that love you, and at that moment I had so many people caring for me that that was never an option. Never.
RAO: Cecilia Cheung accused you of being a hypocrite and a fraud. She said that you turned your phone off and that you ignored her while this whole thing was going on. What would you say to her now if you had the chance?
CHEN: I would, you know, I don't really want to have a back and forth with her, which is why I didn't really comment on what she had said before. I hope that she can understand that, you know, I really do feel sorry. I really am sorry to her. I'm sorry to everyone involved, but you know,at a certain time and a certain point in everyone's life you get caught up in things. And I was just caught up in the whole mix. I was at the center of the storm. What she wants to say I'll let her say it because in a certain sense some of the responsibility is in my hands and maybe in her world I'm the only one who was wrong.
RAO: When was the last time that you spoke to any of them?
CHEN: Umm...I can't recall.not recently.
RAO: Before the scandal?
CHEN: Definitely before the scandal.
RAO: You haven't spoken to any of them since?
CHEN: No.no.
RAO: Because you couldn't find them or because you didn't want to?
CHEN: Umm...you know.initially it was because I couldn't find them. Secondly, it was because I didn't really know how to approach and really what to say to be honest with you. I would have liked to call them and say sorry, but at the same time, you know, I hope that when the trial was over they would actually know I didn't do this on purpose. That's why I waited for that trial to end for forever. It was like a calendar mark that had no day, you know, and umm, you know if I can see them. I don't wanna...like speaking on the phone. I feel like it loses a lot of the integrity of the emotion. I think that like it's like some people say, you know, we break up over the phone it's one of the worst things, right? And I feel like if I apologize over the phone it might not seem sincere and it might not seem real.
RAO: Well careers are in shreds and engagements been broken, some would say even lives have been ruined. If any of the women were to come to you and say, listen, I wanna talk about this, you know, I wanna just get this all straight. Would you be open to that?
CHEN: Definitely. If we're going to sit down as two adults and really suss it out, I'm open, I'm open to it, but judging from the way they've done their interviews I don't think that, you know, they have every right to be angry. I don't want this to come across as I'm saying something about them, but I don't think that they're, they can sit down and have a constructional conversation with me quite yet.
RAO: Do you think this time in your life will always stay with you?
CHEN: Even if I didn't want it to, it would. I've tried to move on with my life and I think that, you know, it's kind of like forgive and not forget, but it's like I want to forget too. Cause I've had to forgive myself, I mean you know, the person I was angry at most was myself, you know, I was most unhappy with myself. I had to learn to deal with myself. I had to go home and look at myself in the mirror and see what kind of man I am. And, you know, I come to learn to come to terms with myself. I feel more comfortable as the Edison now than I was the Edison before, and I don't know how that makes people feel, but you know, I'm just being real and I'm just being honest.
RAO: Edison, it really can't have been easy for you to talk so openly about this, so I do thank you very much indeed for sitting down with us today.
CHEN: Thank you.
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中文报道
中文报道:
闹得满城风雨的艺人艳照事件男主角陈冠希日前接受CNN电视台独家访问,他透露全部艳照均经女方同意拍摄,并坦承拍摄过的艳照不止1300张。
陈冠希今年2月就艳照案在加拿大作供后,上周三忽然从美国洛杉矶返港,连日在尖沙嘴及中环等旺区出入。原来他此行还接受了由AnjaliRao主持的CNN节目《TalkAsia》访问,再次谈及艳照风暴之余,还会解释为何拍艳照,也首次向艳照女主角之一的张柏芝道歉,节目长约30分钟。
据港媒报道,陈冠希当日穿上笔挺西装录像,主持人问他为何选择接受CNN访问时,他以英语说:“在法律上,我现在才可以谈及此事,因为案件终于完结。老实说,一直以来有太多的谣言,我有很多的说话要说,因此我认为最适合在这里一次过说清。”
提到当初第一张艳照在网上流出时,陈冠希犹有余悸,他说:“我到哪里都感到害怕。当时我还在香港,坐的士也要躲在车尾箱中,还要待在那里15分钟。”
事件爆发后,陈冠希撇下其它艳照女主角潜逃美国,但即使如此,他的心情也未能平复,他说:“就算我离开了亚洲,到了美国及加拿大,我要用3个月时间才将事件慢慢放下。”
他又说:“我认为我是受害者。我不能说我没有任何错失,但我同时认为我不是罪犯,我也为此事受到极大打击。”
到今年2月,张柏芝接受有线访问谈及艳照事件时,狂骂陈冠希“猫哭老鼠假慈悲”,又指事件爆发后陈冠希从没向艳照女主角道歉,就连手提电话也关掉,对此陈冠希在访问中首次回应,他辩称是警方不许他谈及柏芝,他说:“其实我不想跟她纠缠下去,也因此而没有响应她的言论……我不能跟她对话,因为这是警方的要求,再者他们也在调查我,而这件事已令我非常困扰……我真的感到抱歉,我真的对她感到抱歉。我希望有一天她能够原谅我,以及明白我也有自己的困难及苦况。我真的,真的不希望此事发生在任何人身上,而我仍尊重她。”
他又指自己不是故意冷对一众艳照女主角,他说:“起初我找不到她们,然后,我真的不懂得怎样去接触她们。”
去年警方曾搜出1300张艳照,当中涉及6名女星,陈冠希早前在加拿大作供时,也承认艳照女主角包括阿娇、陈文媛及张柏芝。外间盛传可能还有另一批艳照,甚至有指拍摄艳照的女艺人最少有14人,陈冠希在CNN的访问中坦承艳照不止1300张,又说全部艳照均经女方同意拍摄,他说:“全部都是双方同意下拍摄的,试想想我拿着相机在你面前拍照,灯光一闪,你可会不知道我在拍你?就是这么简单。”
作为艳照事件始作俑者,回想去年2月在港举行记招公开道歉的情景时,陈冠希说:“我当时很无助,我知道我做错了事,但是事情闹到我们都无法弥补的地步。最初我真的不明白为甚么事件会引起这样强烈的憎恨和争议,可是过了一阵子,我开始明白他们的感受……我的意思不是这样公不公平,而是我明白到中国文化的本质、社会的想法和感受。”
事件后一众艳照女主角立即潜水,陈冠希则飞往美国避锋头,他说:“我一个人在SantaMonica的海滩,独自哭了很久,直到气息平定,我慢慢开始想以后该怎么办。我在想,已经过去的错我无法改变它,但是我不断思考我可以在未来做些甚么正面的事来弥补。”
对于有传他曾自杀,陈冠希矢口否认:“我那时真的很低落,但从未想到要自杀。自杀是不负责任的表现,我不会笨到丢弃生命来逃避而不去弥补过失。尽管有些人恨我,但世界上仍然有很多爱我的人……我绝不可能做这种事。”
陈冠希身边一直不乏女伴,但经历此事后,他与女友Vincy彷佛共历生死,他说:“这段时间,我感受到人间的冷暖,但是女友让我了解到爱的意义,这种真爱的力量很大,我似乎成了一个全新的男人。”
离开香港后,陈冠希暂居洛杉矶,他形容这是人生的低潮期,但却找到更多人生价值,他说:“我自己开车煮饭,一个星期去健身室4次,可以自在的闲逛。有心事我就跑去海边发呆,任意大叫狂踢都不会有人在意。我感受到自己活得像个真实的人,这是金钱买不到的踏实感觉。”
一年多过去,一众艳照主角纷纷尝试返回工作岗位,陈冠希在访问尾声再一次道歉说:“很对不起,但是我们都该正面的往前看。我会做很多事来弥补我以前做的错,但愿这世界最终会让我们重拾自己的生活。”
陈冠希道歉发布会
英文原稿(蓝色部分为Roger认为重要句型和短语):
英文原稿:
Today I've come back to Hong Kong to stand before you,and account for myself,I've never escaped away from my responsibility.
During the past few weeks,I've been with my mother,and my family,and love ones,to show
support and care,and at the same time have their support and care for me.
I admit most of the photos being circulated on the Internet were taken by me,but these photos were very private,and have not been shown to people,and were never intended to be shown to anyone.
Their photos were stolen from me illegally,and distributed without my consent.There is no doubt whoever obtained these photos had been uploading them on the Internet with maliciousand deliberate intent.
This matter has intercalated to the extend that the society as a whole has been effected by this,and in this regard,I am deeply sad in it.
I would like now to apologise to all the people for all the suffering that has been caused and the problems that have arisen from this.
I would like to apologies to all the ladies and to all their families,for any harm or hurt that they've been feeling,I'm sorry.I would like to also apologies to my mother and my father,for the pain and suffering that I cost them during these past few weeks.Most importantly,I would like to say sorry to all the people in Hong Kong,I give my apology sincerely to you all,and reservedly it be,and with my heart.I know young people in Hong Kong look up to many figures in our society,and in this regard,I had failed,I had failed as a role model.However,I wish this matter would teach everyone a lesson,to all the young people in our community,let this be a lesson for you all,this is not an example to be set for you.
During my time away,I've made an important decision,I will wholeheartedly fulfill all commitments that I have to date,but after that,I've decided to step away from the Hong Kong entertainment industry,I've decided to do this to give myself an opportunity to heal myself and to search my soul.I will delicate my time to charity and community work within the next few months,I will be away from Hong Kong entertainment indefinitely,there is no time refrain.
I've be assisting to the police since the first day that the photos were published,and I will continue to assist them,after this press conf.,our obligations to help their investgation,and hope that this case can end soon,as everyone I think has the same wish.
I would like to use this opportunity to thank the police for their hard work on this case.Thank you.I believe everyone's priority now,my priority now,is to stop suffering the pain,for not letting this, we do not want to let this situation to be more out of control,we need to protect all the innocents and all the young for matters like this.In this regard,I've been instructing my lawyers to do everything possible within the law to protect all the innocent victims in this case.
I believe that the press today that been issued as we speak are what my lawyers had advised me to do.
Lastly,I would like to thank everyone for coming here today,and listening to what I have to say.I would like to also apologies once again to all the ladies and their families,my family,and to everyone in Hong Kong,and everyone in our society.I'm deeply in sad by this,and I apologies to everyone that had to go through this.I would like to also thank you for giving me this opportunity to say what I wanna to say all along in my heart.I hope after today,I can have your forgiveness.With regard to this case,with everything,everything that had happened,I'm deeply sorry.
I hope you all would accept my apology,and give me a chance.Thank you.
简化版中文译文:
我回到香港,独自面对这一起,我从来没有想过逃避,我的家人始终和我在一起,他们支持和帮助我。
我承认这次事件中的大多数照片都是我拍的,但是它们都是在很隐私的情况下拍摄的,有人非法从我这里窃取了这些照片,没有经过我的同意,并在互联网上恶意传播,造成恶劣的影响,我非常遗憾。
我诚挚地表达我的歉意,向所有人,向相关的女士和她们的家人,在这件事中受到的伤害。我向我的家人道歉,我向父母道歉,最重要的是,我要向全香港的人民道歉,我衷心地表达我的歉意。
我知道这个时代的年轻人崇拜偶像,但我不是一个应该被崇拜的人,我不是正面的榜样,我希望这次的事件可以教育大家。
在完成现在的工作之后,我将退出娱乐圈,我将会在最近几个月的时间里做一系列的慈善的工作,医治自己的伤口和灵魂,然后我将永远的离开。
我希望这一切可以能尽快的结束,谢谢警方这段时间所做的一切,我相信当务之急是尽快停止现在的一切,和它造成的一切伤害。不要进一步失控,不要让更多的年轻人受到伤害。
我要求我的律师在法律允许的情况下可以帮助年轻人,我会发放今天的新闻稿。我要谢谢你们可以到这里听我的解释。
最后我要再次向被牵扯到这次事件中的女士道歉,向她们的亲属道歉,向我的家人道歉,向全香港的人民道歉,希望将来可以得到你们的宽恕。