M: First of all, thank you obviously for your time, Angelina. You are now in Iraq.
W: So what is your main aim in this visit？ What are you trying to accomplish while you are out here?
Well, I came to the region about 6 months ago.
I first went to Syria because I work with U.N.H.C.R. and there are 1.5 million refugees in Syria alone from Iraq
and while I was there, I went inside and met with some internally displaced people.
You know, these are the people made homeless because of the war. They are refugees.
And this trip is to get a better picture of the internally displaced people and to discuss the situation with the local government, with our government, with the NGOs and with local people,
and try to understand what is happening, because there are over 2 million internally displaced people and there doesn't seem to be a real coherent plan to help them
and there's lots of good will and lots of discussion, but just a lot of talk at the moment and a lot of pieces need to be put together.
So, trying to figure out what they are.
M: What kind of sense have you been able to get so far in terms of how severe the crisis is and what actually needs to be done to help out?
W: Well, I, in my research before I came here, I looked at the numbers and there are over 4 million people displaced and of the 2 million internally displaced,
it's estimated that 58 percent are under 12 years old.
So it's a very high number of people in a very, very vulnerable situation and a lot of young kids.
So far the different officials I've met with and different local people I've met with all have shared concerns and very strongly, you know,
they have spoken out about the humanitarian crisis but um, there seems to be a block in.
I'm not good at policy and fixing all this and saying what's wrong, but I do know that, for example, U.N.H.C.R. needs to be more active inside Iraq.