Man: So, what do you think has made you successful as a businesswoman?
What is it that makes someone able to progress as an entrepreneur in the business world?
Woman: Well, in my case,
I think it's more a reflection of my mental capacity than all the books I've read and the skills I learnt at university.
I mean I can write a good letter now but that isn't going to make me successful.
But I've got a fundamental understanding of business.
I can see very easily in my mind how things are going to go.
Man: OK. Let's move on now to talk about your career. First, you got into the soft drinks business ...
Woman: Yes ... in the late eighties.
But we soon found that importing drinks is a bit of a dull business - nothing much was happening,
so we sold up in 1991 and thought 'What shall we do now?'
We decided to go travelling for a year, but we wanted to work while travelling.
Then when we were in Australia, we met someone in the drinks industry who had a chain of restaurants there. He took us on.
My brother was a waiter and I was working in the office, doing a lot of the day-to-day running of the restaurant,
and in doing that I learnt the basics, such as what to buy, how many chefs to employ and so on.
Man: And you stayed there until 1994.
Woman: Yes, then we came back here and started the Pacific Grill straight away.